Julia Beverly Talks Success, Being A Girl Boss, And Commanding Respect In Hip-Hop
Imagine sitting at your cubicle at work, wondering why you were in a cubicle to begin with when you knew you wanted something different for yourself. Sound familiar?
Well that train of thought was exactly what led Julia Beverly, former Editor-in-Chief of Ozone Magazine, into a dynamic, and successful 10 plus year career in the Hip Hop industry. Julia has been credited with single handedly giving Southern music a voice through Ozone Magazine, which closed shop in 2010 after an outstanding eight year run. In fact, some of America’s biggest Hip Hop acts were featured in Ozone, including Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, Jim Jones, T-Pain, T.I., Lil’ Wayne, and David Banner.
In a 2010 Creative Loafing article, Julia was described as, "A 28-year-old white woman in an industry composed largely of black men, she's the unlikeliest of rap moguls, and has seen her name recklessly slandered by people who believe she has no business doing what she does. In the same article, she is given credit for helping to give southern Hip Hop a voice by Scarface, who said he was a big fan of her work. "I really respect what she does," he said. "Ozone has always told our side of the story. There was a whole market down here that was making noise, and you only heard about some of it. Now, thanks to Ozone, you hear about all of it."
Since closing Ozone’s doors, Julia is now dedicated the next leg of her journey that she probably didn’t see happening years ago. After about five years of interviews, preparation, and investigation, Julia is now author of the late Pimp C’s biography, Sweet Jones: Pimp C’s Trill Life Story.
Julia Beverly poses with a fan during a book signing event at the Museum of the Gulf Coast in Port Arthur, Texas. (Photo: Da Pit Productions)
When I met Julia for an interview during her book signing event at the Museum of the Gulf Coast in Port Arthur, Texas, the petite beauty seemed content being around the same people she interviewed for the biography. That day, Julia looked like she was around extended family, as Pimp C’s family and friends gave the impression of gratitude to her for taking years of her time to do real investigative journalism work on the biography of one of Port Arthur’s hometown heroes.
During our interview, I got to know how the soft spoken Orlando, Fla. native commanded attention in the Hip Hop world, which can often be unforgiving and misogynistic. Listening to her journey made me have a deeper appreciation for her contribution to Hip Hop music, and how she grew to be a girl boss that any woman could admire.
How were you introduced to Hip Hop music?
In high school, I had a class with a guy that would play Outkast all day--the ATLiens album. I didn’t even know it was hip-hop.
After getting out of high school, how did you start working in Hip Hop music?
I was actually working a day job at an architectural firm. I was doing IT work, and so it’s kind of funny that I ended up with this, but I just transitioned to being more like a photographer, into a [graphic] designer, and then eventually doing a magazine. And I’ve been in the music industry really since I was 19, so I’ve kind of done it all in the music business. I’ve had the opportunity to play all those different roles. And it’s kind of funny now to be the artist, the one being interviewed. Normally I’m the one doing interviews, taking pictures, and all that. It’s been a different experience, but it’s been a lot of fun.
You said you did everything while you were at Ozone?
Well not just at Ozone. I’m a photographer, I’m a graphic designer, I’m a booking agent, you know. Everything A-Z behind the business, I’ve kind of done that at one point or another. That’s why I said now to be the artist actually on promo tour is kind funny to be spearheading the project, so to speak.
How did it feel to be a girl boss at Ozone?
Pimp’s mom told me as I was writing the book with her that Pimp had made a com ment to her, like he
was joking around with her, she didn’t like women that were like real feminine and like frilly... She was kind of hard core, too. And Pimp said, “Oh no, she’s bitchy like you.”
So you know, as a woman, when you’re firm with your pricing, or you try to handle business, people will call you a bitch. That’s fine, you know? That’s cool. I've always felt like you could take it as a positive thing. People will think you’re hard core, you’re about your business.
[Tweet "I think for women, you have to work a lot harder to maintain your reputation..."]... And make sure that people know that you’re serious
Was that one of the reasons why you chose not to sue Mistah F.A.B. for defamation of character?
That was such a minor situation, and I never had any dealings with him at all. If people don’t have anything bad to say about you, and you’re a woman, [they’ll say], “Aww, you’re a whore.” But whatever. Or be a white female [like myself], that’s the only thing they can come up with.
[Editor’s note: Back in 2009, Mistah F.A.B. and Julia got into a Twitter beef, where Mistah F.A.B. accused Julia of sleeping around the industry. After he refused to apologize for the statements that he made about Julia on Twitter, which she says were “defamatory,” she decided to take legal action. Julia later said that she chose not to go through with a lawsuit because she didn’t want to give the issue any more attention.]
I very much agree with you. In doing research about you, I felt it was kind of the same with [Waka Flocka's mom] Deb Antney.
That’s a totally different situation. If you’re going to stand for something, you’re going to make some enemies at some point, you know? Deb was just mad because I had done an article about them [her company] taking all of this money from promoters up front for a tour that never happened. I had talked with all of these promoters that had lost $40,000 to $50,000, and never got what they paid for. So I did an article about that. But that was more Johnnie Cabbell, Johnnie [who was the booking agent for Nicki Minaj and a few other rap acts at the time] was taking all of this money, and he had to change the name of his company after that, because he had so many lawsuits.
I just got to the point that whatever someone has to say about me, I really don’t care. They can say whatever they want.
Has there been any experiences where you had to overcome being treated like an object as a woman in a male dominated industry?
That’s like every day, every show. Usually the artist have their little entourage hanging out, and try to meet girls. You walk into certain situations [like a tour bus], or backstage in a dressing room, or a hotel, they’re going to say something to you. Like, “Hey girl what’s up?” Or comment on your booty. Me personally, I say, “Here’s my magazine,” or “Here’s my book, check it out.” I’m a smart ass anyway. Say something smart to me, I’m gonna say something smart back. More than likely, we’re just going to end up becoming friends.
It’s funny because like, Necole is a friend of mine, and I’m friends with a lot of other women in the industry [like] Angela Yee. People like that that are respected, but [someone] will always have something to say. Like, “Oh, she slept with such and such." A majority of the time, that’s not even true. Most of that is like, you’re just the homie. Most of the women that I know who are successful in the business have mastered being friends with guys, and it not be a sexual thing.
You’ve got to be “the homie” and not the girl that they’re talking about [on wax].
[Tweet "That’s part of success, is making people see you as a person..."]...and not someone trying to get backstage with a rapper
Do you have any advice for aspiring writers?
It’s hard to make a living doing any kind of media. Now everything is so accessible. Photography used to be my main source of income, but now everybody has smartphone, DSLR cameras--it’s hard to make money off of that. I think you should diversify, and not just do one thing. Once you’ve mastered something, maybe experiment with some other things. So that’s how I’ve been able to maintain, by wearing a lot of different hats.
Even as a writer, it’s hard to make money, even if you get a salaried position at a newspaper or a magazine, because the truth is they’re not really making money. You may have to freelance for different blogs, start your own blog. You know, have a different hustle on the side. Like me, I’m a booking agent by day, writer by night. Just kind of balancing different hustles. Writing is kind of like my creative outlet.
Is [print magazine being a dying format] the reason why you gave upOzone?
The main reason was kind of being bored. We did Ozone monthly for eight years, and I kind of felt like I was doing the same interview over and over again. All the artists now have similar stories, and it was getting repetitive.
To put out a monthly magazine, that’s a good 2-3 weeks out of your month where your schedule is filled up. But I got the opportunity to travel. I was filming with Flo-Rida, so when I got opportunities to go overseas for a couple weeks at a time, that’s when I realized how much I was missing out on by not doing other things.
Why a book about Pimp C?
Now that I’ve been in the industry for more than a decade, you know Pimp C was one of the most
interesting [people] that I met during that time frame. I felt like a lot could be learned from his story, like a lot of up and coming artists, I felt like they should read what he went through as far as the music business. He had bad managers, bad record deals, there was a lot of trials and tribulations that he went through, and there’s a lot that they could learn from his experience.
Who are you looking at now musically? You were in charge of emerging the most notable and iconic Southern artists, so is there any new artists who interest you?
I don’t really take credit for it. You know, I can’t make somebody a star, but I can kind of expose someone who already is a star, or already has it [a movement] going. But I’m kind of out of that line of work. I’ve been listening to Pimp C’s stuff as I’ve been researching [for] the book. So I’m not really up on [current music]. I don’t have any great predictions for the future.
What are you going to do as soon as this book tour is done?
I would like to do some [more] traveling next year for sure. We’re going to continue this [book tour] for another month or two. I’m going to keep doing the booking agency thing. I went to Alaska with Brian McKnight and Slim Thug. Went to Hong Kong with Ray J, and being a booking agent has allowed me to travel. I literally went to China, ran the great wall, flew to Macau, China, went to a show with Ray J. It was fun.
Purchase Julia Beverly’s book, Sweet Jones: Pimp C’s Trill Life Storyon Amazon and iTunes and follow her on Twitter and Instagram at @juliabeverly.
The Mecca Of Fashion: The Top Street Style Moments At Howard Homecoming
Outfits were planned, bags were packed, and cameras were ready to capture Howard University's collegiate spirit during its centennial Homecoming celebration. Not only does it hold the number one ranking as the most elite Historically Black College and University or its top performing academics, diversity of students and alumni, but the HBCU also leaves a legacy of style and grace.
The essence of effortless poise and refinement shines bright through the iconic university colors of indigo blue, red, and white. Every October, Howard University students, alumni, staff, and friends gather on the prestigious campus in Washington, D.C. to take part in time-honored traditions and events, which is Homecoming. This year's theme, “The Meccaverse,” was a week-long celebration of Howard University’s heritage, including the Homecoming football game and Bison Pep Rally, the Fashion Show, Greek Life Step Show, Homecoming Day of Service, Lavender Reception, and the iconic Yard Fest Concert.
As 2024 marked the 100th anniversary of the Howard Bison trek back to The Mecca and after two years of virtual events due to the COVID-19 pandemic, this was to be a celebration of a lifetime. We enlisted HU alumnus Sharmaine Harris, a luxury retail buyer, as she revisited her alma mater as eyes on the yard for fashion-forward outfits mixed with personal style and campus pride for the weeklong celebration.
Before we get to the looks, discover how attending Howard University impacted her career in fashion and her day-to-day style:
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xoNecole: Describe your personal style. Did attending Howard have any impact on developing it?
Sharmaine: Howard taught me that there’s no such thing as being TOO dressed. There’s always a reason to “put it on” and look presentable, even if it’s just for a day of classes. Standing out was celebrated and encouraged with my peers embracing the opportunity, giving me the confidence to try new styles and trends.
xoNecole: How did Howard shape your career as a luxury buyer?
Sharmaine: I studied Fashion Merchandising, through which I was fortunate to have professors who were very connected to the industry and able to give first-hand accounts of opportunities and what to expect post-college. I was also able to build a network through my peers and other Howard Alum, which has opened doors to endless possibilities both within fashion as well as daily life.
The same confidence instilled in me through my style has also been rooted deeply within me as I step into any role or project I’m faced with throughout my career.
xoNecole: This year marked Howard’s 100th-anniversary Homecoming celebration. Can you describe what the weekend looked and felt like?
Sharmaine: I’ve gone to many Howard Homecomings since graduating, but this year’s 100th anniversary felt like a huge family reunion filled with nothing but love. It was beautiful to see so many Bison return home looking great and radiating joy. It was beautiful!
xoNecole: What makes Howard fashion different from other HBCUs?
Sharmaine: Being that Howard is The Mecca, we have such a diverse population with each individual having their own spin on fashion. Getting dressed is second nature for us, but the layered confidence is our secret ingredient to make any look come together. Through that comfortability to push barriers, we have a legacy of setting trends, as indicated by the many alumni we have in the fashion and entertainment industry.
Keep scrolling for the top street style moments from The Mecca's Homecoming weekend:
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Before You Go Through His Phone, You Should Know What The Law Says About It
Back when I used to tour with an organization that dealt with sex and porn addiction, something that I used to say is porn can be a lot like roadkill, especially when it comes to certain kinds of it: you may not want to look, but if it’s in your face, you can’t seem to help it. Know what else is a lot like that: easily 80 percent of reality television these days. And what is like a huge deer on the side of the highway? WeTV’sLove After Lockup.
Geeze. Even as I’m typing this out, I’m embarrassed to admit that I have seen even more than one episode. What got me to check it out initially was hearing so many people talk about the Michael, Meagan, and Sarah nonsense from several years back. And you know what? I don’t care if it was way back then or when I will watch a few minutes while channel surfing now, if there’s one thing that I’m always saying (sometimes even out loud) is I get why a lot of people “fall” for inmates: when individuals are in a controlled environment, you can constantly account for their time, you can get most of their attention — they are willing to say and do almost whatever you wish.
And for a control freak, that is a relational wet dream. Unfortunately, then, once the inmate is released, they go from dealing with correctional officers in jail (or prison) to relationship wardens. What I mean by that is, instead of them being closely monitored while in custody, now the person who they “dated” while they were locked up seems to act as if it is their job to put themselves in the same position as the officers.
A great example of this? GOING THROUGH SOMEONE’S PHONE WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. And although it’s so common that one survey reported that 56 percent of women and 44 percent of men do it (more women than men…hmm…), while another stated that a whopping 71 percent of folks said that they use their partner’s phone without them knowing (hell, 21 percent professed to doing it often too) — let me put it to you this way: I wonder how many people know that it’s a practice that the law actually frowns upon.
Don’t believe me? Take a few moments to scroll through this article a bit more. Please let it serve as a PSA that just because something is popular, that doesn’t make it legal or right. And honestly, when it comes to preserving your relationship, it’s not the wisest move in that department either. Not at all.
First Up: Going Through His Phone, Without His Permission, Is Actually Illegal
@feistyaquarius Here is a checklist to make sure you didn’t miss one inch of that 📱 - settings (passcode) -imessages ( groupchats, msgs with friends ( guy names too check them) - whatsapp -telegram -GPS - call logs -photos ( RECENTLY DELETEDS FOR ALL APPS -instagram -fb msgs -snapchat ! -DROPBOX -emails -cash app (apple pay transactions) #fyp #iphonetips #parentsoftiktok #relationships
That, umm, presentation is from feistyaquarius on TikTok. Although there were a few times when I was like, “Girl, what?” as I was watching it, I can’t really say that I was shocked overall because there are TONS (I’m not exaggerating either) of other social media posts that are very similar to it. It’s like people have made a science out of coming up with ways of going through someone’s phone without them knowing. And here’s the thing about that — it is actually illegal.
According to a law firm’s website that I checked out on the topic, “The Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA) is a federal law that makes it a crime to access someone else’s private communications without permission. It covers cell phones, computer use, email, social media accounts, and other types of electronic communications.”
The act itself, you can read more about here, here, and here; however, as it relates to the day-to-day things of everyday relationships, that act is relevant in the sense that it doesn’t matter if you are dating someone, engaged or even married to them, if you are going through their phone (or texts or emails) without their knowledge and consent, you are not only invading their privacy, you are breaking the law.
Adding to that, if you go through a device that is password protected without their permission, that is considered to be a form of illegal spying.
And here’s the thing: whether you’re keylogging (using software to track what someone is doing on their computer), using spyware to monitor someone’s phone activity, you’ve put a GPS tracking device on their phone or even downloaded an app that keeps up with what they are doing on social media, based on where you live and what you end up doing with the information after getting it, if you get reported or caught, the consequences could be anything from a fine to actual jail time. And what if you’re doing this to see if your spouse is cheating on you?
From what I’ve read and researched there, that’s not gonna be very helpful for you either because many judges will see you as being controlling and/or intrusive and/or problematic. Plus, since many divorces can be entered in as a “no-fault” one, proof of infidelity won’t benefit you much anyway.
So basically, while you’re out here listening to TikTok detectives and their literal phone hack tips, I don’t even know if they’re aware that they’re encouraging you to low-key break the law — and possibly ruin your relationship in the process.
Strictly from the relationship standpoint, here’s why I say that…
Going Through Your Partner’s Phone Is a Sign of Distrust (and Disrespect)
GiphyPersonally, I never have been the kind of person who likes to snoop around people’s things. One reason is because I lived with a parent who moved that way (reading my diary and journals and everything). Another is because…I just think it’s disrespectful as hell. I mean, even when a friend’s phone rings or a notification goes off, and I’m closer to their phone than they are, and so they ask me to pass it to them, I will turn the face of the phone down and hand it over. Whatever they’ve got going on on their phone is their business.
And when it comes to past relationships, I honestly feel the same way. Just because we are together, it doesn’t mean that my partner doesn’t have their own identity and right to privacy.
Besides, if I feel like I need to know your every move, that means that either I don’t trust you and/or I want to run you on some level —and both of those things are toxic ways to deal with a relationship. And before one of y’all says, “Oh, I trust him, I just don’t trust who may be trying to communicate with him,” — can we please retire that tired saying once and for all?
If you actually trust your partner, other people don’t matter. They have enough self-control and integrity to handle themselves and whatever is transpiring accordingly. In other words, trusting them is all that you need to be concerned about. Period.
Going Through Your Partner’s Phone Is a Sign of Control
GiphyJealousy is a sign of being controlling in a relationship. Constantly “making” someone earn your trust is a sign of being controlling in a relationship. Treating someone like they are guilty until they prove to you that they are innocent is a sign of being controlling in a relationship. Gaslighting someone into violating their own boundaries in order to please you is a sign of being controlling in a relationship.
Pulling accusations and presumptions out of thin air is a sign of being controlling in a relationship. Feeling like you should know any and everything “just because” is a sign of being controlling in a relationship. And when you go through your partner’s phone without them knowing about it, pretty much all of these signs are being manifested in that action — one way or another. And who wants to be around a controlling type of individual?
There is no real-time or space to get into all of the reasons why someone is a controlling person. For now, what I will say is many people move like that because A) it was modeled to them while growing up; B) they have very low self-esteem, so they are insecure, and/or C) they seem to think that they should parent their partner (which is also toxic as hell).
A mental health expert by the name of Robin Skynner once said, “If people can’t control their own emotions, they then have to try to start to control other people’s behavior.” This basically means that controlling people need to control themselves instead of trying to control others — and what that basically boils down to is they need to be alone…until/unless they do.
Going Through Your Partner’s Phone Is a Sign of Hypocrisy
GiphyOkay, please tell me that you noticed the part of the TikTok up top when she said that she is gonna go through her man’s phone regardless, “So long as he doesn’t go through my phone.” Umm, you know what that kind of mentality is defined as being, right? It’s sho ‘nuf a hypocrite because a hypocrite is someone who says one thing and then turns around and does something different.
And honestly, when it comes down to it, I’m with playwright Tennessee Williams when he once said, “The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that's also a hypocrite!” because a hypocrite is not only arrogant and delusional enough to hold you to a standard that they don’t hold their own selves to, they also tend to lie to themselves as much as they lie to you in order to justify being that way.
Think about it: how is it that you feel that you have the right to violate someone else’s privacy and yet if the shoe were on the other foot, now it’s a problem? It’s basically because you know that all of it is wrong, and yet you’re okay being a walking contradiction. And anyone who is alright with twisting the truth like that, they aren’t someone who anyone should think is long-term relationship material. I am absolutely not budging on that conclusion, either.
Going Through Your Partner’s Phone Is a Sign of Liking (Potential) Drama
GiphyI’ve shared before that a Black series that I heard about late in the game and then binge-watched and enjoyed isChef Julian. While preparing to pen this, I thought about one of the issues that Julian had with his first love, who he was constantly on and off with (Mo), was that she was a snooper (one example starts at the 7:40 mark of this episode here). She was sneaking around when he wasn’t looking, all the while trying to see what was transpiring via the smartphone that he pays the bill for.
And here’s the thing about that: the fact that she’s lurking like that proves that she knows that she’s totally out of pocket. Yet besides that, say that she does find that he’s liking pics on Instagram (some of y’all really need to relax on that), that he’s talking to women that she doesn’t know, or even that he’s seeing someone else. You snuck around to find out, so…now what? You’re going to go off on him for not being able to trust him, and your evidence of that comes from you doing something that shows that he really shouldn’t trust you, either?
Hmph. Sounds like nothing but the onset of a lot of drama to me — and as an article that I once read on CNBC about dramatic people, three clear signs of being full of drama are they always move with a sense of urgency and they like to focus on negative (or potentially negative) things — oh, and they always want to be in control. Yep, in their own “special” way, dramatic people are control freaks.
So, what are you saying, Shellie? That if I sense something is up that I go into denial mode? No. However, if you can’t simply talk to your partner and/or you’d prefer to be a bootleg Inspector Gadget, that either means that your relationship has a lot more issues than your suspicions OR that you like drama and you’re trying to feed your appetite. Which is it, sis?
Going Through Your Partner’s Phone Is a Relational Red Flag (on Your Part)
GiphyIn BetterUp’s article from earlier this year, “16 red flags in a relationship to look out for,” some signs that stood out to me included overly controlling behavior; lack of respect or trust; conflict avoidance; lack of emotional intelligence, and an inability to communicate openly. And y’all, if you think about people who sneak into other people’s phones — how are these things not ultimately evident in their actions?
Also, if you want to give me pushback on that, if someone did any of this to you, would you not wonder the same thing about them? Would you not say that they are clear relational red flags? And, if someone were to ignore these kinds of flags, how foolish would they be to 1) stick around and/or 2) act shocked if things didn’t ultimately escalate?
Listen, it really should be enough that going through your partner’s phone without their permission is breaking the law yet, after all of what I said, if you don’t respect or trust them or you would rather sneak around than have a real and frank conversation, one way or another, your relationship is far more unstable and unhealthy than you think — whether they have something going on in their phone or not.
Bottom line, before trying to press your partner’s finger onto their phone while they are sleeping or downloading an app that hacks into their intel, ask yourself how you would feel if they did the same thing to you (BE HONEST) and then really ponder why you think that is the right/wise/smart move in the first place.
Personally, I don’t think any type of violation is a form of love. And as I tried to display here, almost ad nauseam, going through someone’s phone without their permission is a solid example of that.
And what if after reading all of this, you couldn’t care less? I say this in love, but you’ve got more internal red flags going on than you might think — and as a wise person once said, “I think my problem is, I like to see how red the flag can get.”
You wanna know what’s going on? ASK.
You don’t believe them? SHIFT.
Hacking isn’t the answer, though. Legally or otherwise. Ever.
Respect you and them enough to accept that. Fully.
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