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#xoExclusive | Tinashe On Prejudice In The Music Industry: ‘There Can’t Be Five Black Girls Winning’

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  1. Kiara Ex says:

    She’s only half black, soooooooo what she talking about

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    1. Laura Sylvie says:

      Dana Walls No angry card has been played. She doesn’t represent me. I represent me. But, even if she did, so what? There are enough people in this world trying to kill off the success of black women. Based on your reasoning, she should only represent people whom which she shares the same (exact) race with..that’s absurd! Your president in half black…oh dear…perhaps you should leave your country, you’re only being half represented LOL

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      1. Remmi says:

        Some of you all are way too full of yourselves. Really you all are. You have some black women on here proclaiming that she does not represent them. Cool, she doesn’t have to represent you. There are women who come from two black parents who act like asses on reality tv week in and week out who I feel do not represent me whether they are light skin or dark skin. But, Tinashe is half AFRICAN. Most of us scream “motherland this and motherland that” but have or had to pay out of our wallets to find out which African country we are from. She knows her African roots down to the village. She was surrounded by African culture growing up. I’m not going to tell her that she isn’t “black enough” to represent black people just because I come from two black parents while she comes from one African parent and one White parent. That makes zero sense. It would be one thing if she was a classless reality show chick, but she is a hard working young lady who is a dope performer and makes dope music. It’s easy to denounce her success because of skin tone if you haven’t followed her career. But if you have really been following her for a while then you would know that she is VERY deserving of it. She’s good in my book and if this girl isn’t “black enough” for some of you all or “doesn’t represent black people” because she is half white then you all need to no longer claim President Obama, Misty Copeland, Alicia Keys, The Mowry twins, Tracee Ellis Ross, Paula Patton, Zendaya etc.

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    2. Kiara Ex says:

      Exactly, some black women want to claim biracial women as black women but get depressed when white media start replacing actual black women with biracial ones. Now actual black women with two black parents, dark skin, and kinky hair are disappearing in media and being replaced by mixed women. All with the help of self hating negroes… Self hate been killing us and white supremacy doesn’t have to work as hard to get rid of our image bc we do it for them!

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    3. No its not! That’s why you have people who are only half black repping for Black people! She’s not Black!

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    4. So how come we don’t see biracial BOYS being peddled in our faces as much as the biracial girls are if they are all black ??? I see Idris Elba looking black men everywhere but the moment Stephen Curry became famous that’s when people had an issue with dark skinned men being put aside

      It’s like people just want dark skinned and FULL black women put aside in a corner but black men can be dark as midnight

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    5. Laura Sylvie says:

      ‘Only half black’ wow. You’ve just displayed the ignorance she was talking about. Half black is HALF black! If she wants to positively represent a race that is consistently misrepresented, why shouldn’t she?

      Perhaps if you’d look at your genealogy, you’d see you’re probably only 1/32 black.

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    6. Why would white people be the governors of who is black and who isn’t in the first place ? So when it comes to mixtures we want white people to rule us but then don’t want them ruling us any other way ? You can’t have it both ways !

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    7. Tell em Kiara! Black people can be so dense sometimes. Supporting our own erasure by claiming biracial people. Smh. It’s not enough whites get to represent everything white now the half whites get to represent blackness? Stop supporting white supremacy.

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    8. Jessica Lynn says:

      Tell it Kiara! She is biracial. You’ll see black women fight you over this because secretly they want that image to represent all of us. It does not. Slave masters rules out of the window! She is biracial.

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    9. Kiara Ex says:

      The one drop rule is over. She is not a damn black woman she is a biracial woman!

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    10. I hear the argument that whites look at mixed raced people as Black all the time! It’s irrelevant how they look at them. The point is that we are being replaced by half Blacks. These are not light complexed Black women with two Black parents! Everyone always wanna silence Black women. You can support white Supremacy all you want. This is a child of a white woman! She’s doesn’t represent Black women with two Black parents regardless of skin color!

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    11. By the way, Obama is biracial not Black! Black people have two Black parents!!

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    12. Dana Walls says:

      My President’s children are no more white than this young lady is Black. Now, please stop dancing around the issue at hand because what we’re discussing is the image of Black women being replaced in entertainment. “But even if she did, so what?” Which brings me back to my original comment. It’s rather interesting to see a bw fight so hard to have her IMAGE replaced. #selfsabotagemuch

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    13. Dana Walls says:

      Right…Obama is biracial, however Laura brought that up know darn well that him being biracial has nothing to do with what we were discussing.

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    14. I can tell you why some BW fight so hard to replace our image. It’s because they think these women are better than we are! The question should be why don’t these biracial women want their own identity?

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    15. I agree. It is her biracial background and complexion that allows her leverage over dark skin performers in the music industry.

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    16. Thank you^^^ and your right about Black folks fawning all over mixed race people. I don’t. Never have, but many do! Soon as I bring this up they start whining. I won’t be replaced quietly! Mixed people are not Black! This woman don’t represent Black woman!

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    17. @Laura Sylvie, Tinashe is not Black. She is not even “light skin” Black. Black women are a product of two Black parents. Tinashe is a product of a White mother and Black father thus she is a biracial woman. Let’s not promote the erasure of Black women here.

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    18. Black men are definitelty at fault. The reason why they are so adamant about promoting biracial women as Black as a way to cover up the fact that they don’t find women who reflect their own image as beautiful. By using a half Black woman as a representation, these males can say, “oh, I find Black women beautiful” while uplifting biracial and multiracial women as the standard of Black beauty. These males just use these women’s half Black heritage to cover up their lust for non Black women and hide the fact that they don’t find women who reflect their image attractive. But many people can see right through them.

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    19. True. But to add on to that. Black men have reinforced the one drop rule by placing the heritage of their mixed race offspring from non black women as Black. These children are not Black! It won’t matter if this woman had a Black mother! She is not Black!

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    20. Kiara Ex says:

      Yep, their so backwards. If you read the destruction of Black civilization this is how black men breeded themselves out of power early on in recorded history, by mixing with Asian women and eventually were outnumbered and killed off by their biracial descendants.

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    21. Yes, you are correct. I see many of them consider their biracial children from non Black women as Black. However, this is another tactic Black males use to erase their Blackness and then claim it for their children when it is convienent for them.

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    22. She’s still black tho. So why can’t she speak for black women? She has a black parent therefore she’s black.

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    23. For anyone that that truly believes the one drop rule is “over” please tell that to a white racist employer and listen closely to their response.

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    24. Kiara Ex says:

      Lala …. She’s half black. She only has one black parent! Her mom is white, white women don’t have the same experiences as black women. So, how can she teach her to be a black woman if she’s not one herself??? She sees the world through the eyes of the white woman who raised her.

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    25. Kiara Ex says:

      It’s very different in the US. I don’t know why you doubting something you’ve never experienced. Please stay in the UK with that one drop rule logic. Thank you!

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    26. Dana Walls says:

      You’re obviously Black Laura. Why would you want someone who is biracial to represent you? A Black woman? Also, go back to the playbook and find another way to silence someone, because the angry card has been played to death, LMAO!

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    27. Right ^^^ and apparently we are angry for not promoting our own replacement! Please!

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    28. Kiara Ex says:

      Black men are at fault for this also…. It’s like their self hate and need to breed with the enemies daughter will erase black women and men…sad as hell. It gets tiring arguing about this issue, but if we stay silent like our elders this will destroy us.

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    29. I won’t stay silent because it’s some bullshit! Biracial people are not Black. I’m not playing that game!!

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    30. Jessica Lynn says:

      Black women of 2 black parents hate their image because the men they find attractive hate it as well. It’s really that simple.

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    31. Feji Tobore says:

      So what you’re trying to say Shelley Wright is that Black identity is moderated by white people? Come of it, belief systems life yours is why the media is getting away with replacing and erasing black women with no talent chicks like Tinashe. For once we choose not to play ball and it’s an issue. smh

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  2. Phenomenalwmyn says:

    This comments section is just sad. Black women are constantly under attack elsewhere; I feel the LAST thing we should be doing, is attacking each other. Let that colorism nonsense blind you, like it’s supposed to! But please know you only speak for ONE black woman… YOURSELF.

    Considering Tinashe supposedly reads this, I’d love for her to see that THIS BLACK WOMAN heard her SISTER, and appreciates Tinashe’s effort to bring consciousness, empathy, and respect to the diverse experiences within black womanhood. I have to agree, I too heard her radio singles and did not make the effort to give her a fair listen. I’m glad I finally did! Aquarius is a dope album. Looking forward to supporting you, as you grow!

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    1. Loren says:

      You better believe that a good amount of the people leaving comments complaining about colorism (the hateful comments, not the more positive ones) cried when our “first black president” was elected back in 08. They were probably applauding Amandla Stenberg (who clearly has some sort of white man’s blood flowing through her veins) a few months ago too after she called out Kylie Jenner. They just have a problem with Tinashe speaking out b/c she’s “the cute little new light skin girl on the block” who hasn’t proved herself yet. They’re basically asking “who the hell is she to have an opinion”? People have their heads so far up their own asses.

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  3. Elle Bennett says:

    I’m going to just be honest here. Right or wrong, I don’t really care about what girls like her have to say about this. I don’t dislike her or anything like that. If she doesn’t think her complexion is moving her forward in this industry, she’s delusional. The issue is that there’s only one type of black girl that seems to always win. It sounds like she’s saying “it doesn’t matter that light skin girls are winning…..lets just be happy that a black girl is winning”. Noooooo my dear. Doesn’t work like that. Again, just me being honest.

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    1. Shon Dunn says:

      So true. They deliberately ignore the fact that ONLY white looking black girls like her are winning and that is NOT a win for the black community. It’s holding up white supremacy and that is a win for white women

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    2. Elle Bennett says:

      And until those basic facts are acknowledged, they can keep their perspectives to themselves!

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    3. Jessica Lynn says:

      Spot on Elle. You’ll get the eye rolls from a lot of lighter women as usual when you swing for the throne but it’s true.

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  4. Corine says:

    Ok I’m not going to lie I was sleep on her and was like most of you with the “there’s nothing special about her.” Until I heard some songs from her album Aquarius. …yass chile I’m loving it. Cold sweat is sooo dope. Love Aquarius, bet , and feels like vegas too. I see what she’s saying. People probably don’t take the time to research because based off of her radio hits, to be honest, she does seem like your typical rising star who will only get a few minutes of fame. But she has a darker side to her that’s not all bubble gum and really creative. It’s unique, I really don’t know what to describe her sound as but some of her videos give me fka twigs vibe and I like weird stuff like that lol

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  5. Nerd Love says:

    I’ve been following her since I stumbled on her song “Boss” a couple years ago. I have all her mixtapes and her album. I personally think the tapes were better than the album but I’m happy to see her out there grinding.

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  6. C says:

    Tinashe needs better music. It doesn’t have to be generic trap, it just has to stand out. She doesn’t stand out.

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  7. Fudge it! says:

    LET’S REVERSE THIS…….

    WILL WE EVER SEE A BIRACIAL WOMAN (black mom, white dad or v/v) REPRESENT WHITE WOMEN?
    HOW ABOUT REPRESENTING ANY OTHER RACE OF WOMEN? ASIANS, HISPANIC, INDIANS? NO???/
    @Tinashe I know you doesn’t see the issue but try standing on the podium and say “I represent White women” and see what those people will call you,a Neeeega because they do not accept you…

    Raven & Stacy dash can speak negatively about the African race but they CANNOT CALL THEMSELVES WHITE because that will be the end for them because they doesn’t represent pale skin, blonde hair and blue eyes, amen!

    The main reasons BIRACIAL people are coined as “Black” is because they’re not accepted by whites… Cold truth.

    I like Tinashe & her music but I cannot say she or other BIRACIAL people represent me because they don’t … Simply put, black+black=black – white+white=white so how could black+white=Grey equates to BLACK?????????
    Beyonce, Rihanna, Nicki and countless other Black women have been bleaching to appear more “European” because secretly majority of us are embarrassed to say “I’m black, period!” We gotta always say “but my family is mixed with….. Xyz”

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  8. gellie says:

    Tinashe is pretty, talented. But what it comes down to is music. It’s just not popping. I think musically, she needs to go back to the drawing board.

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  9. Wavy Dee says:

    She’s very underrated. She puts on a great show! A true performer if you ask me.

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  10. Who cares. Never heard a single song from her. Her complextion is THE ONLY reason she has any popularity. She doesn’t speak for the black community, or black artist. Greater artist of the darker hue are always at a disadvantage no matter the immense talent.

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  11. Fudge it! says:

    For all the years I’ve been living I have never seen a biracial woman represent any other race besides our own….
    The Black race must be a trash can because EVERYTHING should go in but not everything can go in a recycling bin, or bin for bottles but EVERY damn THING goes in the trash can right???

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  12. Sarah says:

    I agree with a lot of what she said but obviously the people who will support her are the more established in the industry because she’s not a threat to them. Beyonce wasn’t inviting Ashanti on tour when they were coming up. They were in competition. And another point, this thing about there only being space for one black musician/actress, its even worse because some black singers have bought into this and believe it too.

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  13. LOVE HER! She was really speaking truth in this interview, especially the tidbit about women of color in entertainment. They’re always pitted against each other!

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  14. In music and arts, you can’t hide black talent. From shades of Mariah, Aaliyah, Janet, Beyonce, Kelly, Mary J., there’s room for all… Tinashe, you just have some work to do. We need more skill from you

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  15. Pastor G says:

    I not encouraged by what I have read here within these many comments. Many of you are probably Christians or so you say and yet have forgotten that we black people came out of the Hebrew, Greek, and African lineages which were ad mixtures of white or light skinned people and dark skinned people based on the environment factors and previous mixing of the races. You have not read that all humans are 99% genetically the same, which supports the fact the fact the Eve is the life giver of all humanity as God has written. This proclivity to jump on the bandwagon of hate because of skin color is a behavior similar to other groups of people. Check yourselves and sin not. Do not become like your abusers.

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  16. Rai says:

    GREAT article and interview. It’s clear that ppl (noticeably black people) just will not give her a chance which is a shame. I’ve had the pleasure of seeing her perform live and I can say that I’ve haven’t seen stage presence like that in a while. The girl is truly a superstar in the making. I’ve noticed that she has been trying to balance her music more by infusing a little more pop into her r&b. Mainstream has began to take a liking to her which is well deserved. If her future projects are anything like Aquarius ,which was bomb,then she will have a bright future. People will just have to come around and catch up I guess. Their loss. I will say that while I agree with her sentiments towards black achievements being that regardless of tone, she should be aware and be willing to help out the Sevyn Streeter’s of the world when she is in the position to do so. A collab or two wouldn’t hurt.

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  17. Ali D Myrick says:

    I didn’t read the entire article but in my opinion, it seems like they are trying to market her to the wrong “crowd” she seems like she would have more success as a pop star. She doesn’t seem “believable” as an R&B singer, she is talented though. I hope she finds her “pocket”

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  18. Bridget King says:

    I feel the same way .

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  19. Indie Ari is perfect example that what she said in this interview is pure bs. When Indie and Keys came out the same year they were both nominated for multiple grammy’s (actually Indie had more nods), yet Indie lost every single category to people she could sing circles around (especially screaming ass Keys). It has nothing to do with us black girls being pitted against one another it’s the fact that marketers will market those who look a certain way. I don’t think tinashe is talented in the least (my personal opinion and I’m entitled to it) but because if her “look” and her connections she has been successful…and she knows this that’s why she brought up the old and played out argument of “light vs dark”. She had nothing else to prove why she’s successful. Because she’s average at best. And lest we forget Ledisi being snubbed for Beyoncé…it all comes down to marketing and who is deemed more “friendly” looking.

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    1. Elle Bennett says:

      Girl I have NEVER forgotten about the Grammy snub of India. Still boils my blood….

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  20. Who is Tinashe? Based on this picture, her complexion and biracial heritage gives her an advantage over darker skin performers out there.

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  21. Love says:

    You guys have said everything I wanted but better!

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  22. Bosha says:

    I think what throws me off about Tinashe isn’t her “light skin and cute face”, it’s the fact that her voice doesn’t stand out for me…which turned her into just another light skin and cute face girl that labels push out. I’m not taking away from all of her accolades and such…but when I first see her (because she doesn’t have a powerful voice, original sound, or x-factor thing going on) I just kept it pushing. Her music is just okay for me, I think it’s following the alternative R&B trend too much, and it makes it hard for me to identify who she is because the genre is hot right now and not necessarily something original. When I think alternative R&B, I think of the Weeknd…he made that lane for himself. I don’t see that with Tinashe and when that happens it makes paving the way for yourself harder. If your voice isn’t a powerhouse sound, you have to produce hit after hit or have a major ex-factor like an Ashanti, Rihanna, or Ciara. I just don’t see that with her thus far.

    But it’s a double edged sword because most female talent with powerhouse voices aren’t dime pieces, so they struggle to be seen at all and not just be recognized as a powerhouse voice. It’s rare that the two are combined, but when they are you get Whitney, Mariah, and Beyonce. Those essentially can’t be beat. The only other aisle is being a bad bish like Janet, Rihanna and Madonna. I just don’t see Tinashe fitting any of those top notch spots. Unfortunately men don’t have to battle for these narrow spots, but women do.

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  23. mrskeepitreal says:

    Wow yall are really going in in these comments, damn I thought black people were a little more accepting than this. Its sad some of yall are so “woke” EVERYTHING becomes about some white supremacist agenda this girl spoke HER Truth and yall feel like because YOU DON’T identify she should be cast off into the bi-racial sea of rejection some of yall sound like the oppressor!

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  24. Adrianne B says:

    Unfortunately I’m just stuck on the use of the word “irregardless” (which is not a word at all). The articles on the site are always thought provoking and relevant but I wonder sometimes, who is the editor?

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  25. DJ Emir says:

    Well regardless of the fact that IRREGARDLESS is not a word as it would be “Having no regard for having no regard” or in other words having regard LOL Tinashe is definitely a hot upcoming artist that already has great success with a few hit singles on the airwaves. The production behind her is top quality and she sounds great on the tracks. LOL I once had that very conversation on that “word” we looked it up for the win and to my surprise the word was actually in the dictionary. But regardless of it being found in the dictionary the very definition rebutted the fact that it was in there at all! I had a good laugh at my girlfriend’s expense when she said see there it is… rthen we read the definition together as:

    Irregardless definition: “Though in widespread use, this word should be avoided in favor of Regardless. (See Regardless)” TAKE THAT! LOL

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  26. Rya says:

    I’m honestly not a fan of her voice. Rihanna is also average, but she has great producers and catchy hooks. Tinashe needs a new team. Especially a new publicist. To me, she’s just another light skin girl that sings, dances, and try’s to be sexy. I’m tired of seeing so many failed Aaliyah wannabes. It’s exhausting to watch.

    P.s. I don’t believe biracial people are black. Biracial people tend to claim their black side when they are feeling the pressure of their white side. Don’t try to ditch your momma side because they’re being mean. No ma’am. You’re biracial.

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